I am very impressed with the thoroughness and how well written her answers are (see the chat posted below).
I am especially interesting in her textual cues. I always considered IM reference to have a serious drawback because of the lack of physical cues, but I never, naively I suppose, considered the textual cues that are embedded in each and every IM reference interview. I would be interested in reviewing IM reference interviews collected by a library and trying to figure out what the person really wanted.
I never thought of the aspect of group thinking potential in this service. I have never even considered IMing another librarian to ask for help with a reference question (I ask somebody near, I guess I really have not been asked thesis level difficult questions yet). What an incredible idea, if we could have tons of librarians in a group (would Ning work for this?) and have questions posted to that group. I imagine those may be some of the most throughly answered questions in history.
Could we/should we set up a reference Wiki for librarians that are having trouble with a question, but specifically for librarians (or experts in a field willing to help librarians) at reference desks? Does this have a problem I am not seeing at this moment? Is it already out there and I don’t know about it? I am drooling at the very idea, something with and on the ALA website would be the best. Who do I need to talk to get this going?
Funny all this from an innocent IM interview.
Question ID: 2817482Chat Transcript: Do you have a free moment to discuss IM reference with a LIS student?
[Librarian 20:54:50]: Librarian ‘Marie (24/7 Librarian)’ has joined the session.
[Librarian 20:55:30]: I will do so as long as we don’t get crazy busy
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[Librarian 20:55:38]: My name is Marie.
[Mick 20:55:46]: Ok, I work the reference desk as well so I know how that can be
[Librarian 20:56:01]: Brittney – are you still online?
[Mick 20:56:21]: Are you talking to me>?
[Librarian 20:56:28]: See – I got mixed up already. What is is that you need to know?
[Mick 20:56:52]: I was wondering what it is like to use IM for reference
[Mick 20:57:09]: Are you a reference librarian normally? Academic or public?
[Mick 20:57:49]: How does it differ from face to face?
[Librarian 20:57:58]: What is it like….it seems to work well for many patrons who are tired of trying to dig through the internet or are multitasking at home….
[Mick 20:58:10]: Tricks to doing it well
[Mick 20:58:31]: Do you point to websites mostly or do you have database type questions?
[Librarian 20:58:38]: I have always been a reference librarian…academic 10 years, public 3 years…
[Mick 20:59:18]: Who seems to be asking the most questions?
[Librarian 20:59:39]: Do you point to websites mostly or do you have database type questions? Both and tons of circulation questions.
[Mick 21:00:03]: Ah, circ about how do you answer those?
[Librarian 21:00:14]: Who seems to be asking the most questions? Students and geneology research.
[Mick 21:00:22]: Ok
[Mick 21:01:18]: How many questions do you get usually, when you are on?
[Librarian 21:03:14]: At busy times – about 15 per hour
[Mick 21:03:26]: Wow, that is great
[Mick 21:04:05]: How is the reference interview different?
[Librarian 21:04:29]: No visual cues…must rely on textual cues…
[Mick 21:04:40]: Such as?
[Librarian 21:05:00]: Circ questions are answered using the patrons’ own library website.
[Mick 21:05:45]: Ok, you get card number and see fines due holds etc?
[Librarian 21:06:40]: Does the patron frame the question well or does it need clarification – does the patron say where they have searched, are there misspellings or misunderstood terminology being used?
[Librarian 21:07:44]: No – can’t get into the system for the patron but follow the policy information given on the website. Refere to home library via telephone or visit for account info.
[Mick 21:08:00]: Do you often get pat questions, ones obviously taken verbatim from a homework assignment?
[Librarian 21:08:55]: About 25%
[Mick 21:09:04]: How do you respond to them?
[Librarian 21:10:35]: 25 percent of the questions – respond by locating websites that will lead them to resolving the question themselves….
[Mick 21:11:13]: Ok, do you have refer the users to print sources…
[Librarian 21:12:01]: All the time – books, newspapers on microfilm, gov docs…
[Mick 21:12:05]: Sorry, let me rephrase have you referred…
[Mick 21:12:40]: Do you check catalogs and then send them to the physical library?
[Librarian 21:12:53]: Where are you an LIS student?
[Mick 21:13:20]: Dominican in River Forest, you know of it?
[Librarian 21:13:30]: Yes – send them to the stacks and give them call numbers and search particular branch locations….
[Librarian 21:13:47]: Of course…also lots of ILL questions…
[Mick 21:14:08]: I am taking a Library 2.0 class… so IM reference
[Mick 21:15:00]: What does it take to be a good IM reference librarian, in your opinion?
[Librarian 21:16:21]: The same abilities it takes to be a good f-2-f librarian but also be able to develop an online rhythm and toggle bewteen many open windows rapidly.
[Mick 21:16:32]: LOL
[Mick 21:16:54]: Anything else I should know?
[Mick 21:18:58]: If you like you can check out our class blog at http://l2course.wordpress.com/
[Librarian 21:19:36]: Contrary to what most librarians think about VR, it is a service that is constantly in demand on a global scale even if it isn’t well-used in a single library. We answer 24/7/365 and some of the questions are amazingly sophisticated and from all over the world.
[Mick 21:20:41]: How else do you use technology to get to the questions?
[Librarian 21:20:54]: Unlike f-2-f, we have ability to contact many librarians instantly for referrals.
[Librarian 21:21:24]: Eeven librarians log into our service!
[Mick 21:21:35]: Yahoo! Answers, Wikipedia Reference Desk, Metafilter?
[Mick 21:22:08]: That is great, so this is a potential source for librarians that are stuck to bring in more minds, more of a crowd answer?
[Librarian 21:22:54]: Absolutely…they can instantly consult while their patrons are right there.
[Mick 21:23:13]: With more and more under qualified people on the desks that is great
[Mick 21:23:36]: Do you see that often, reference librarians consulting for help?
[Librarian 21:23:40]: Mick – gotta go – log in again when you need more assistance.
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[Mick 21:23:50]: Ok, thanks a lot
[Librarian 21:24:01]: Sorry to cut you off but we have to kind of limit our sessions.
[Mick 21:24:10]: I understand
[Librarian 21:24:20]: Good luck in your studies.
[Librarian 21:24:24]: Librarian ended chat session.